Disclosures Tribunal: Leo Varadkar told me Sgt McCabe 'needs to be heard', says Eoghan Murphy
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Update – 1.59pm: Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy has said Leo Varadkar told him that the concerns of Garda whistleblower Maurice McCabe "needs to be heard".
Speaking at the Disclosures Tribunal today, the Dublin TD outlined how he was a member of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) when Sgt McCabe was due to appear before it in January 2014.
At the time, there was debate about whether PAC had a remit to investigate concerns or not of Sgt McCabe about abuse of the penalty points system.
Mr Murphy said he had concerns around PAC's role, but that he was also not aware of specific rumours about Sgt McCabe at the time.
However, he said there were claims or rumours, including in Leinster House, that Sgt McCabe and fellow whistleblower garda John Wilson were in some way "odd".
He said he discounted the rumours, as people were trying to stop their evidence as it was "uncomfortable".
Mr Murphy said one weekend he spoke to Leo Varadkar, the then transport minister, by phone.
Mr Varadkar said he was "frustrated" that Sgt McCabe's concerns were not being taken seriously.
The Housing Minister also said Mr Varadkar "put the case that this person needs to be heard."
The tribunal continues today and is investigating if there was a campaign by the force to smear or discredit Sgt McCabe.
11.50am: MicheÃ¡l Martin tells Disclosures Tribunal he heard rumours Sgt McCabe was 'not reliable'
Fianna FÃ¡il leader MicheÃ¡l Martin says he heard rumours that Sgt Maurice McCabe was ânot reliableâ, but no allegations of sex abuse against the garda whistleblower in the political or media arenas.
However, Mr Martin outlined how a young woman named Miss D came to his office in April 2014 and alleged that Sgt McCabe had abused her as a child.
This followed contact made by journalist Paul Williams with his party office and after an article about Miss D by the same author. The garda was not named in the article, but Mr Martin said he used his intuition and thought the story was about Sgt McCabe.
Mr Martin said: âI took the matter very seriously, a young woman coming before you and making this allegation.
"She said she had been abused. Her main concern was that it was not investigated properly.â
Mr Martin was today asked about what he knew about an alleged smear campaign against Sgt McCabe, which the Disclosures Tribunal is investigating.
He outlined how he met Sgt McCabe in 2014 and the garda told him about the âsystemic abuseâ of the penalty points system. The garda went through a series of issues and other allegations of malpractice against the force and Mr Martin asked him to put together a dossier.
The Fianna FÃ¡il leader told how he forwarded this to the Taoiseach, asking that those matters be included in an inquiry.
Mr Martin told the tribunal this morning he was cautious about following up on issues or allegations unless they were from documents, meetings and not hearsay.
KEYWORDS: Garda, Disclosures Tribunal, Micheal Martin, Maurice McCabe By Juno McEnroe
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